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		<title>Why Value Investing and Trading Don’t Mix</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why Value Investing and Trading Don’t Mix by Alexander Green, Chief Investment Strategist Tuesday, May 18, 2010: Issue #1262 Last week, I spoke at a special conference on value investing at the beautiful Driskill Hotel in Austin, TX. Virtually every stock market investor talks about “recognizing value.” I’ve found that interest in value investing ebbs [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.investmentu.com/2010/May/why-value-investing-and-trading-dont-mix.html">Why Value Investing and Trading Don’t Mix</a></p>
<p>by <a href="http://www.investmentu.com/investment-experts/alex-green-archives.html" target="_blank">Alexander Green</a>, Chief Investment Strategist<br />
Tuesday, May 18, 2010: Issue #1262</p>
<p>Last week, I spoke at a special conference on value  investing at the beautiful Driskill Hotel in Austin, TX.</p>
<p>Virtually every stock market investor talks about  “recognizing value.” I’ve found that interest in value investing ebbs and flows  depending on the market. No one wants to overpay for a stock, or keep holding  one if the price gets nutty.</p>
<p>And that leads to  a basic question: How do you find  value in the stock market?</p>
<p>It depends whom you ask…</p>
<p><strong>The Fathers of Value Investing</strong></p>
<p>The fathers of <a href="http://www.investmentu.com/IUEL/2009/July/value-investing.html" target="_blank">value investing</a>, of course, were Ben Graham  and David Dodd, two teachers at Columbia Business School who wrote the  investment classic, <em>Security Analysis.</em></p>
<p>They argued that value investing is about buying companies  that are selling below their intrinsic value.</p>
<p>How do you determine that? According to Graham &amp; Dodd,  that means buying companies that…</p>
<ul type="disc">
<li>Trade at significant discounts to book value.</li>
<li>Have high <a href="http://www.investmentu.com/2010/January/six-steps-for-finding-dividend-stocks.html" target="_blank">dividend yields.</a></li>
<li>Have low price-to-earnings (P/E) ratios.</li>
</ul>
<p>Buying this way is not only supposed to lead to higher  returns. It’s also designed to provide a significant “margin of safety.” The  idea is that if you buy a security right, your downside is limited.</p>
<p>A number of academic studies have shown that if you follow  the principles of Graham and Dodd, you should do very well over the long term.</p>
<p>But  there are potential problems with this approach…</p>
<p><strong>Don’t Let a Cheap Stock Suck You In</strong></p>
<p>First of all, stocks are rarely as cheap as they were back  in the 1930s when <em>Security Analysis </em>was written. Or even as cheap as  they were back in 1982 when the typical stock sold for less than book value and  eight times earnings and yielded more than 6%.</p>
<p>And if you sat out the last 28 years out because stocks were  too expensive, you missed an awful lot of opportunities.</p>
<p>When you do find a stock that does meets Graham and Dodd’s  stringent requirements, you also need to be patient. Why? Because companies  that are very cheap are out of favor for a reason. Sales are often flat or  down. Earnings are weak. Profit margins are low.</p>
<p>You can’t succeed just by buying a company that’s cheap. (It  can always become cheaper.) You have to buy a company that will someday – and  perhaps not too far off – be dear to others. Otherwise, when will you take  profits?</p>
<p>So maybe Graham and Dodd’s message needs modifying. (Warren  Buffett, Graham’s most famous student, has certainly found ways to modify it.)</p>
<p><strong>The Problem With Defining “Value”</strong></p>
<p>I’ve found that the definition of value and the tools to  achieve a margin of safety are flexible. And <em>The Oxford Club</em> has found  successful ways to bend them.</p>
<p>To my mind, any stock that goes from $10 to $50 was a  “value” at $10. I don’t care what the P/E or price-to-book was at the time.  With the luxury of hindsight, it was clearly a bargain. Why quibble?</p>
<p>But die-hard value investors will argue that if the stock  was “overvalued” at $10, it’s only more grossly so at $50 – and therefore,  you’re at great risk holding it.</p>
<p>I disagree. If you use our customary <a href="http://www.investmentu.com/2009/November/trailing-stops-made-simple.html" target="_blank">trailing  stops,</a> your upside is unlimited and your profits fully protected. As long  as a stock keeps trending up, we’re content to hold on – no matter what the  valuation. When the stock eventually turns, as all do eventually, our stops  will keep the profits from slipping through our fingers.</p>
<p>As for value analysis, quite frankly, we don’t spend a lot  of time poring over P/Es and book values. We’re just interested in identifying  companies that are likely to show dramatic, better-than-expected growth in the  quarters ahead. These stocks tend to be more expensive than average, just as  companies that will show little or no growth tend to be cheaper than average.</p>
<p>This method works, too…</p>
<p><strong>Do You Have the Key Traits to Profit From This Approach?</strong></p>
<p>The independent <em>Hulbert Financial Digest</em> has ranked  our <em>Communiqué</em> among the top five newsletters in the United States for  10-year performance.</p>
<p>And our approach has one significant advantage over value  investing. It works quickly.</p>
<ul>
<li>Growth stocks tend to sprint.</li>
<li>Profits often come sooner  rather than later.</li>
</ul>
<p>As someone who spent 16 years as a money manager, I know  that most investors don’t have the patience to be good value investors. (<a href="http://www.investmentu.com/2005/October/20051031.html" target="_blank">John  Templeton</a>, for instance, held companies in his flagship Templeton Growth Fund  an average of 7.5 years.)</p>
<p>Yet clients will start to grouse if a stock doesn’t move for  six months. They call it “dead money” and start itching to move it elsewhere.</p>
<p>I understand this instinct. But deep value investing and  rapid trading don’t mix.</p>
<p>If you’re a patient, truly long-term oriented investor,  value investing can work wonders. If you’re not, you’ll be better off searching  for companies that are set to smash estimates.</p>
<p>When a stock doubles or triples – or rises 50-fold or more like <strong>Apple</strong> (Nasdaq: <a href="http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=aapl" target="_blank">AAPL</a>) and <strong>Amazon</strong> (Nasdaq: <a href="http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=AMZN" target="_blank">AMZN</a>) – don’t worry,  other investors will concede it was a “value” before.</p>
<p>Good investing,</p>
<p>Alexander Green</p>
<p><strong>P.S.</strong><strong> </strong>If it’s  value you’re looking for, look no further than <a href="http://www.investmentu.com/investment-research/OXF/million0410race.php?pub=OXF&amp;code=WOXFL502" target="_blank"><em>The Oxford Club</em></a>. For just $79, you’ll receive a whole year’s worth of our  experts’ top stock recommendations, investment ideas and strategies that you  can use to amass profits and build wealth.</p>
<p>You’ll see exactly why <em>The Hulbert Financial Digest</em> has ranked <em>The Communiqué</em> newsletter in the top five in the United  States over the past 10 years and have a portfolio of your own that can weather  the market’s storms, but thrive, too.</p>
<p>Take the guesswork out of the investing process  and let some of the best, most successful analysts do the work for you. <a href="http://www.investmentu.com/investment-research/OXF/million0410race.php?pub=OXF&amp;code=WOXFL502" target="_blank">Sign  up (risk-free) to <em>The Oxford Club</em> today</a>.</p>
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